Hmmm

[gsh]

I pronounce the word "cache" as "cash". I was with a co worker, who when he cleared the cache on his IE program, pronounced it in the french way "ca shay". Is that an acceptable pronouncation?

Comments

[elkor.livejournal.com]

Dictionary.com and I say "no"

I could go with "kash-uh" (soft e sound on the end), but not a long e/a.

[drwex]

No, that's not acceptable way to pronounce that word, whether one is French or American.

Dictionary.com gives the American explanation. The French one is defined by the "CAREFUL" rule, which is that in French one does not pronounce the last letter of a word unles that letter is one of CRFL.

So "cache" in French omits the final 'e' and the terminal phoneme is "ch" or "sh". Likewise, "cachet" omits the final 't' from pronounciation and the terminal phoneme is "ay".

[elkor.livejournal.com]

What I was trying to get across was that I'd accept if someone used the e to let the end sound in "kash" taper off.

That's not how I personally pronounce it. I use the "sh" as terminal.

I don't have the right phenomonic characters/knowledge to explain what I mean better than that.

[tamarinne.livejournal.com]

I would say that "ca shay" is how you pronounce 'cachet', not 'cache'.

[melebeth]

or cache with an accent over the final e.

[margoeve.livejournal.com]

I believe it is the correct French pronunciation.

[beaq.livejournal.com]

That would be the pronunciation for cachet. Cache is like the Cache la Poudre River (and just you try saying *that* right locally. That's the Pooder River to you, missy!).

[gsh]

Yes.

[debboamerik.livejournal.com]

Cache means "hide"; cache with an accent over the e means "hidden." If you spell it without the accent, it's "cash." Generally, in English, we spell it without the accent, and use "cachet" (meaning: seal, as in the seal on a letter) as the thing we pronounce "cashay". This saves us a lot of trouble and keeps meanings clear.

While we're grammatically nit-picking.

[elkor.livejournal.com]

Cache (to hide) and cache (hidden supply) are pronounced the same.

"I want you cache the supplies in that cache of weapons."

There is no usage of the word "cache" (that I am familiar with) meaning to be hidden unless you are referring to a supply/group/quantity of something other than yourself (generally innanimate objects).

Example: You don't say "I cached behind the tree until the hunters had gone by."

Re: While we're grammatically nit-picking.

[debboamerik.livejournal.com]

Excuse me for being unclear; I was speaking about the original meanings of the words, which are French.

Ah-ha!

[elkor.livejournal.com]

Then I qualify my commentary by specifying it's application to English/American usage.

I speak not the French language, so don't know the application of "cache" for said usage.

Re: Ah-ha!

[debboamerik.livejournal.com]

Interesting how many of our words have entered the language from French, even well after the Norman conquest.

Words of French origin in the above sentence (to the best of my knowledge): Interesting, entered, language, French, Norman, conquest.

OK, that was just me being silly. (But it's true.)

Re: Ah-ha!

[elkor.livejournal.com]

Ditto for Spanish, German and (to a lesser extent) Italian.

It's quite an amalgom.

Re: Ah-ha!

[debboamerik.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure French and German lead, though, for good historical reasons. I always find this stuff fun.

[keyosko.livejournal.com]

It would be fine if the person was in France at the time of the clearing. But in America we pronounce it cash.
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